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Isaacp · Jun 27, 2005, 07:37 PM // 19:37

Hi,
I have a question about the Hall of Heroes and the signet you can win.

#1- How many times do u have to beat a group to win a signet?

#2- Do you have to use PvE (if thats right) to win the signet? Or can u use a PvP char to win a signet?

#3- Does everyone win a signet when you win a signet, or is it just 1 person?
(by everyone, I mean 1 person/ guild)

#4- what would be a good ranger build so I can PvP in hall of heroes (currently I have a R/Me)

ya, so, could you answer these, and give me your answer or best oppinion

Kensal · Jun 27, 2005, 07:45 PM // 19:45

i can help abit i know half the anwser

ok if u beat a team in the hall of heros 3 sigets r given randomly to the team that wins

i cant help u with a build as im a warrior not a ranger but i would say like a r/w so long and short ranger covered or a r/mo so u have the survival skills and the monks healing powers

hope this helps

Isaacp · Jun 27, 2005, 07:54 PM // 19:54

ok, so If I understand right...

you only have to beat it once, and 3 out of so many people that won are going to get it.

its a team of 8, so 3/8=0.375. 0.375 * 100 = 37.5

so 37 ~38 % of the team will get a signet.... NOT GOOD ODDS

anyways, you would have to win roughly 3 to 4 times to wave a signet..

Rangers dont seem to be needed in the hall of heroes, but I KNOW that rangers help alot.

oh ya, another question. If you die, do u still have a chance to get a sigil?

Draken · Jun 27, 2005, 08:05 PM // 20:05

pvp and pve characters can pick up sigils if you die and still manage to win the hoh then everyone comes back tolife and a chest apears which when opened hands out 3 sigils and a piece of armor or a weapon. rangers are common site in the hoh you will probably need to get a guild to get their though i dont see how a pickup team could get their without a bunch of luck playing at odd hours. alot of my guilds current team builds are based around certain nature rituals droped by rangers and it makes us very hard to kill. rangers mesmers also can lay traps uniterupted for some good aoe damage you could look into that

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Isaacp · Jun 27, 2005, 08:15 PM // 20:15

ok, what do u think of this based on my old monk skills (deleted) and my ranger, combined into PvP

Stats;
Healing 11
Smiting 2
Protect 0
Beast mastery 1 (blue)
Expertiese 5
Wilderness survival 8
Marksmanship 20

Skills;
Power Shot
Barbed trap
Distracting shot
Troll Unguent
Banish Bane Signet
Heal Party
Revive

Aristotle · Jun 28, 2005, 12:04 AM // 00:04

how do u get 20 in marksmenship

1004pyro · Jun 28, 2005, 02:12 AM // 02:12

thats what i like to know ass well.

Isaacp · Jun 28, 2005, 03:01 AM // 03:01

well, when you go to costom chareter, you have a full 200 (or 300, I can't remember) stat points. so, First thing I do, take HALF of them, and pile it all into marksmanship, which gave me 20 for some reason.

Chris Wallace · Jun 28, 2005, 03:05 AM // 03:05

I would drop the marks and bump up the expertise. Expertise makes your skills cost a hell of a lot less, and with that low expertise you are going to be useless. With a level 12 expertise all skills that are ranger skills cost half as much energy. And they recharge faster

Isaacp · Jun 28, 2005, 03:12 AM // 03:12

ya, but that would drop my marksmanship damadge exponentially. So I would be doing very small damadge, and have high damadge for skills.
But I find that even witha high expertiese, the cost is still the same when you have your cursor over the skill, but it costs less when you use it. I think that it should be implemented into the game that it actually SHOWS how much it costs.

Aaaaagh · Jun 28, 2005, 03:19 AM // 03:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kensal

i can help abit i know half the anwser

ok if u beat a team in the hall of heros 3 sigets r given randomly to the team that wins

i cant help u with a build as im a warrior not a ranger but i would say like a r/w so long and short ranger covered or a r/mo so u have the survival skills and the monks healing powers

hope this helps

You stole my avatar! Ok, it was found on a website, so you didnt steal it..but!!!

Isaacp · Jun 28, 2005, 03:37 AM // 03:37

lol, sorry

my marksmanship is 12.... not 20

I was looking at the points I would be refunded if I refunded points. Sorry for mix-up

JoDiamonds · Jun 28, 2005, 03:52 AM // 03:52

Dealing damage isn't the key for Rangers in PvP. Instead, the key is to use disruptive skills, generally, to screw around with the enemy.

Try things like Pin Down or Distracting shot. Rangers are extremely versitale, and are able to counter nearly any other class if they are really trying (similar to Mesmers in that way).

You can try to be a primary damage dealer, but that's probably not how you'll be most helpful to your team.

Jun 27, 2005, 07:37 PM // 19:37	#1
Isaacp Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario Guild: Penguins With Rifles Profession: N/Me	HoH and signets Hi, I have a question about the Hall of Heroes and the signet you can win. #1- How many times do u have to beat a group to win a signet? #2- Do you have to use PvE (if thats right) to win the signet? Or can u use a PvP char to win a signet? #3- Does everyone win a signet when you win a signet, or is it just 1 person? (by everyone, I mean 1 person/ guild) #4- what would be a good ranger build so I can PvP in hall of heroes (currently I have a R/Me) ya, so, could you answer these, and give me your answer or best oppinion

Jun 27, 2005, 07:45 PM // 19:45	#2
Kensal Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK Guild: Legends of balthazar Profession: W/Mo	i can help abit i know half the anwser ok if u beat a team in the hall of heros 3 sigets r given randomly to the team that wins i cant help u with a build as im a warrior not a ranger but i would say like a r/w so long and short ranger covered or a r/mo so u have the survival skills and the monks healing powers hope this helps

Jun 27, 2005, 07:54 PM // 19:54	#3
Isaacp Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario Guild: Penguins With Rifles Profession: N/Me	ok, so If I understand right... you only have to beat it once, and 3 out of so many people that won are going to get it. its a team of 8, so 3/8=0.375. 0.375 * 100 = 37.5 so 37 ~38 % of the team will get a signet.... NOT GOOD ODDS anyways, you would have to win roughly 3 to 4 times to wave a signet.. Rangers dont seem to be needed in the hall of heroes, but I KNOW that rangers help alot. oh ya, another question. If you die, do u still have a chance to get a sigil?

Jun 27, 2005, 08:05 PM // 20:05	#4
Draken Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Guild: The Exiled	pvp and pve characters can pick up sigils if you die and still manage to win the hoh then everyone comes back tolife and a chest apears which when opened hands out 3 sigils and a piece of armor or a weapon. rangers are common site in the hoh you will probably need to get a guild to get their though i dont see how a pickup team could get their without a bunch of luck playing at odd hours. alot of my guilds current team builds are based around certain nature rituals droped by rangers and it makes us very hard to kill. rangers mesmers also can lay traps uniterupted for some good aoe damage you could look into that . Last edited by Draken; Jun 27, 2005 at 08:07 PM // 20:07..

Jun 27, 2005, 08:15 PM // 20:15	#5
Isaacp Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario Guild: Penguins With Rifles Profession: N/Me	ok, what do u think of this based on my old monk skills (deleted) and my ranger, combined into PvP Stats; Healing 11 Smiting 2 Protect 0 Beast mastery 1 (blue) Expertiese 5 Wilderness survival 8 Marksmanship 20 Skills; Power Shot Barbed trap Distracting shot Troll Unguent Banish Bane Signet Heal Party Revive

Jun 28, 2005, 12:04 AM // 00:04	#6
Aristotle Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: Mo/R	how do u get 20 in marksmenship

Jun 28, 2005, 02:12 AM // 02:12	#7
1004pyro Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Netherlands // Alteveer Guild: No one is Perfect Profession: Mo/Me	thats what i like to know ass well.

Jun 28, 2005, 03:01 AM // 03:01	#8
Isaacp Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario Guild: Penguins With Rifles Profession: N/Me	well, when you go to costom chareter, you have a full 200 (or 300, I can't remember) stat points. so, First thing I do, take HALF of them, and pile it all into marksmanship, which gave me 20 for some reason.

Jun 28, 2005, 03:05 AM // 03:05	#9
Chris Wallace Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	I would drop the marks and bump up the expertise. Expertise makes your skills cost a hell of a lot less, and with that low expertise you are going to be useless. With a level 12 expertise all skills that are ranger skills cost half as much energy. And they recharge faster

Jun 28, 2005, 03:12 AM // 03:12	#10
Isaacp Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario Guild: Penguins With Rifles Profession: N/Me	ya, but that would drop my marksmanship damadge exponentially. So I would be doing very small damadge, and have high damadge for skills. But I find that even witha high expertiese, the cost is still the same when you have your cursor over the skill, but it costs less when you use it. I think that it should be implemented into the game that it actually SHOWS how much it costs.

Jun 28, 2005, 03:37 AM // 03:37	#12
Isaacp Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario Guild: Penguins With Rifles Profession: N/Me	lol, sorry my marksmanship is 12.... not 20 I was looking at the points I would be refunded if I refunded points. Sorry for mix-up

Jun 28, 2005, 03:52 AM // 03:52	#13
JoDiamonds Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New England	Dealing damage isn't the key for Rangers in PvP. Instead, the key is to use disruptive skills, generally, to screw around with the enemy. Try things like Pin Down or Distracting shot. Rangers are extremely versitale, and are able to counter nearly any other class if they are really trying (similar to Mesmers in that way). You can try to be a primary damage dealer, but that's probably not how you'll be most helpful to your team.